A Decade of Trust & Support
The year 2018 marks our 11 Year Anniversary since the business was established back in 2008. Having grown to a 100+ Team, the business’s success has been built on trust, pride, professionalism, competence, passion and a commitment to offering an optimum service. The achievements of our organization are the results of the combined efforts of every individual.

We are ConverseHR, a professional Manpower services company head quartered in Hyderabad. We specialize in permanent, contract staffing, placements and executive search. Our clientele include some of the best names in the industry. Our offices in Hyderabad looks after our client's domestic requirements. ConverseHR also takes care of requirements in the Asia-pacific and Middle East region. The choice of clients and our presence in national and international market can assure you of our commitment in providing you the best of opportunities and ending your search for a dream job.

The Foundation of CHAMEZA Group dates back to 1989 with VISHAL STEEL PRODUCTS a company founded by our Chairman Shri. Kirit P. Panchal in 1989 as a manufacturing concern, which undertook manufacturing of mild steel cabinets for home and office uses. Today Vishal Steel Products has expanded its operations and manufacturing activities to provide every kind of Metal & Wooden furniture solutions to organizations of any size across the globe.
Considering the Growing requirement and the latest Market trends for Complete Interior Solutions and Turnkey contractors, the group started with Chameza Enterprises and Chameza Interiors to provide all kinds of Interior & Turnkey Contracting Services to its Clients.
Chameza Enterprises a young and responsive team which believes in expanding its capabilities in order to accelerate their journey and become a successful provider for all kinds of Interior Solutions and Turnkey Contracting Service.
Been a major manufacturer of Furniture items for past Four decades, a Large Product Portfolio, and with Teams having expertise in almost all major areas like designing, consultancy, fiscal planning, space planning and so on the Group is able to provide best in class solutions with innovation and latest Market Trends.
The Group undertakes projects by providing full range of services in all stages of development, from space planning and fiscal programming through designing and working on drawings to the coordinating and management of Project and Execution. It has experienced Interior designers and engineers to provide valuable consulting services to its clients, to manage & Design projects considering its clients preferences and required Concept.
Our technical and managerial proficient team understands clients requirements and helps them choose right Designs, Concepts, products etc considering the cost-effectiveness, Innovation, Technical’s and provide consultancy which suit our Clients goal and requirement. This gives our Group a competitive edge.
Our Vision:
To be a respected global organization that emphasize on providing quality Concepts, Designs, products and solutions in order to ensure customer satisfaction.
OBJECTIVES:
Our company insists on principles of Best Quality of products and services, competitive costs and constant Innovation.
We target to reach to the planned benefits to execute the project. We determine and implement the exact needs of the client based on the knowledge which we are representing.

Our Mission:
• Achieving customer satisfaction is fundamental
• Bringing continuous innovation
• Providing products and services of the highest quality
• Building lasting relationships with customers
• Ensuring profitable growth
• Developing and retaining the best people

Virtusa Consulting Services Pvt Ltd
http://www.virtusa.com

Virtusa Corporation (NASDAQ: VRTU) is a global information technology (IT) services company providing IT consulting, technology and outsourcing services. Using our enhanced global delivery model, innovative platforming approach and industry expertise, we provide cost-effective services that enable our clients to use IT to enhance business performance, accelerate time-to-market, increase productivity and improve customer service. We serve Global 2000 enterprises and the leading software vendors in communications & technology; banking, financial services & insurance; and media & information industries. We build and sustain application platforms for our clients that create competitive advantage.

Founded in 1996 and headquartered in Massachusetts, we have offices and technology centers throughout the U.S., U.K. and Asia. Globally, Virtusa has been acknowledged and recognized by customers, industry associations and media among others. Some of the awards and recognitions include Dataquest-CMR - IT Best Employers Survey -2012 (Ranked No. 5), International Business Award - 2012(Stevie awards) , Britain's Top Employers- 2012, American Business Award- 2012,Boston Business Journal's Fastest Growing Public Companies, Global Services 100, Fintech 100, Sri Lanka National HRM and others.

We Sure Staff Solutions are glad to introduce our self as one of the fastest growing HR service partner. We are based out in Ahmedabad and helping our clients to form a winning team. We are specialized in Accounting, Taxation (Indian, Australian, US & Canada market), BPO/KPO, IT, Hospital, Doctrate, Manufacturing, Engineering jobs in PAN India.

We help to place in your Dream jobs with high salary & growth.

Highly reputed product development US based Fintech MNC, with a development center based out of Chandigarh

At TechPro, we ensure that you save your precious time & resources and invest them where your immediate attention is. While recommending an employee, the key is to ensure Quality is in process. Our unique recruiting approach helps us find the candidates who best meet the Client's hiring criteria.

We have a pool of experts who enable us to conduct workshops and training programs in the various domains of information technology. We identify client's requirement by doing a training need analysis, evaluating training effectiveness and competency gap analysis.

Datapage provides typesetting and prepress services to the world's leading scientific, medical, legal and professional publishers. We have been in the industry for more than 30 years.We offer expert, on-time project management for journals, books and reference publications. We use world-class process and prepress workflow management to ensure that we always exceed our delivery promises.

- Fhyzics Business Consultants (FBC) is a one-stop solution provider of high-value business advice, sustainable business process management (BPM) and state-of-the-art training for small and mid-sized companies (www.Fhyzics.com).

Youngsoft is an information technology and technology company founded in 1996 and headquartered in Wixom, Michigan. In its 24 year history, Youngsoft has specialized in IT consulting, staffing, and project management for clients throughout the world ranging from startups to industry leaders. As with all successful technology companies, Youngsoft is always focused on the future, forming partnerships with other innovative companies and branching out into new areas.

Bharti Soft Tech Pvt Ltd is a global technology and process driven software solutions company offering customer centric solutions. With knowledge and experience of the entire IT lifecycle, we help enterprises streamline core IT processes and augment their competitive advantage. Our Agile tools and DevOps processes create the outcome-based and ROI driven solution for technology teams and enterprises.

Drawing on the talents and insights of our people in offices around the world, we combine unparalleled experience, comprehensive capabilities across many industries and business processes, and fresh thinking to generate innovative solutions. BSPL offers superior quality and cost effective business solutions, employing cutting-edge technologies and the most exacting of quality standards.

Headquartered in Paris, Europe with two delivery centres in India and operations in U.S., Europe and Asia, we combine local presence and accountability with a global delivery capability.

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Medical Billing experience salary 25k to 60k
Salary in International process (Need Fluent English)15000 to 30000 ( with incentive 50000)
Tech Sales Salary(Need Fluent English) 25000 to 50000 ( with incentive 1.5 Lakhs)
Tech support Salary(Need Fluent English) 15000 to 45000 ( with incentive 1.5 Lakhs)
Travel process Salary(Need Fluent English) 15000 to 45000 ( with incentive 1.5 Lakhs)
If one year experience in callcenter salary(Need Fluent English) 15000 to 45000 ( with incentive 2 Lakhs)
Mailing and Non voice Salary 15000 to 35000( with incentive 1.5 Lakhs)
Salary in Domestic(Hindi-Punjabi) 10000 to 12000 (If selection will be in Hindi and Punjabi After 6 months 14000)
Call center for improvement of English Salary is 10000 to 12000 (If completed 6 month salary will be 15000)
Salary in Sales call center (Need Average English) 10000 to 15000 (with incentive 60000)
Medical Scribe Salary (Need High Fluent English with medical graduate night shift) 25000 to 35000 ( with incentive 70000)
Call center BPO/KPO job for both freshers and experienced in Mohali and Chandigarh, Domestic and International Process, Technical Support, Medical Billing, Medical Scribe, Customer Care Executive,Customer Service Executive,Customer Support Executive,Customer Service Operations,Customer Service Associate, Customer Relationship Executive.
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For Fresher with good English, In International BPO/KPO, qualification: 12th, any degree/ diploma, salary will be– 15000 to 25000 in hand +incentives+5 days working+incentives Performance bonus + overtime extra + Cab facility in tricity free+one time meal free
For experienced with good English, In International BPO/KPO, qualification: 12th, any degree/ diploma, ready to work in night shift, salary will be– 15000 to 50000 in hand +incentives+5 days working+incentives Performance bonus + overtime extra + Cab facility in tricity free+one time meal free
Sales call center, qualification: 12th, any degree/ diploma, ready to work in day shift 9 AM to 6PM, salary will be 10000 to 15000 (with incentive 60000)

If medical graduate with good English, ready to work in night shift(B.sc medical, B.pharma, D.pharma, nursing etc.), salary will be 3 lakh to 4 lakh per anum in hand +incentives+5 days working+incentives Performance bonus + overtime extra + Cab facility in tricity free but 3 month will be training period, per month 10000 as stiffen.
For fresher in Domestic BPO Hindi/Punjabi, qualification: 10th,12th, any degree/ diploma, Salary, – 10000 to 15000 in hand +incentives Performance bonus + overtime extra + Cab facility in tricity+Over Time 70 Rs per hr + 4 off Monthly+ 1 paid leave+ benefit Off Day Work Rs 900.( Day shift also available.)
For Improvement of English we have also a call center qualification: 12th, any degree/ diploma, Salary, – 10000 to 15000 in hand +incentives Performance bonus + overtime extra + Cab facility in tricity+Over Time 80 Rs per hr + 4 off Monthly+ 1 paid leave+ benefit Off Day Work Rs 1000.( Day shift also available.)
Tech support sales agent required with good English, qualification: 12th, any degree/ diploma,
-Candidate should have great communication skill salary: 15k to 45k (depending upon experience).
Incentive for sales agent

RAL INFOSYSTEMS is a India based IT Consultancy with a global footprint, devoted to help companies and service firms create and capture more value.
RAL is working for last 5 years with different companies across the globe to help them optimize their ERP/Network strategies and transform practices.
We offer end to end support right from the ERP selection, requirement gathering to Implementation, Training, Trouble shooting and change management.

We are an ISO 9001:2008 certified company and is the first Indian company to use RFID technology to time runners participating in 10K runs, Half Marathons, Marathons, Duathlons and Triathlons. We take pride runs, Half Marathons, Marathons, Duathlons and Triathlons. We take pride in holding the privilege of timing maximum number of running, swimming cycling, car and bike, kart, and skate races in the sub-continent.Timing Technologies India also has expertise in conducting recruitment drives, involving physical tests, for Army, Police and Railway organization of India

About Us:

Enormous IT Services Private Limited is the service based organization.

Certifications: CMMI Level 3, Nasscom, ISO, NSIC, MSME, HYSEA.

Our Services: Development, Support, Oracle, Microsoft, Big Data, Business Intelligence and Data ware house, Mobile Apps, IT Staffing.

FLEXI Careers India, an AVTAR enterprise, works extensively in the area of Diversity & Inclusion advocacy. With a keen focus on gender diversity to create sustainable careers for women, FLEXI assists discerning organizations in making their workplaces more welcoming for women. FLEXI also provides recruitment and consulting services to organizations for building a balanced workforce and an inclusive work culture.

Jai Sai Technology Since 2003 has been providing integrated solutions to small and medium sized businesses. At our core, we are business problem solvers. Our diversified application knowledge and expertise in multiple industry segments ensures that our customers receive effective, well-supported solutions to meet their individual business requirements.

Mile stones of JAI SAI TECHNOLOGY

2005 - Project Signed with BSNL for regions of GUJARAT, Rajasthan & Jharkhand Tie –up for the project named Wind Cell, successfully monitored, maintained and supported by our professionals.

2007 - Project started with other Government sectors of Govt of Gujarat and Govt of west Bengal..

2009 - Project Signed with VECTOR CONTROL RESEARCH CENTRE (Indian Council of Medical Research)

In addition to offering complete, integrated solutions, Sai Info Tech Solutions has the best and brightest people in the industry with extensive technical skills and experience.

Our commitment to excellence in providing customers with the right solution for their business is only matched by our dedication to providing superior services and support throughout the implementation process and beyond. That difference is our greatest value, and the reason our customers refer to us as their partner, not their vendor.

For us, quality is an integral way of life and we do not hesitate to walk that extra mile to achieve and maintain international standards in all spheres of our activities.

We have achieved IMS Certification, which encompasses all our activities including manufacturing. So, next time, when you choose a product manufactured by SIS or opt for a service offered by SIS, besides value for money, you are also assured of peace of mind.

Strawberry Info Tech offers, innovative and customized learning services which are backed by technology driven assessment centers. Entire training content is been carefully designed by the best of the technology consultants in the country. Our aim is to provide training services which help our customer to arrive at the business solution. Strawberry offers a full spectrum of learning & assessment solutions in the areas of IT & Telecom which touch upon following segments: Career Segment: We offer an exhaustive career program for the young aspirants who want to pursue their career in Embedded and mobile technology. Corporate Segment: The company's expertise in areas like training need identification, strategic consulting, Training design, customized content, off-the-shelf content training delivery, hi-end technology training, & assessment (powered by Whizlabs), and learning management enable large organizations to train cost effectively and efficiently. It facilitates a learning environment that meets their existing and emerging skills requirements. Institutional Segment: We offer various train the trainer programs which enables the faculty to undertake the curriculum more effectively. Our emerging skills program also help the faculties to keep the pace with the changing technology trends. We also offer supplements which help the students to understand the technical concepts practically. Our 6 weeks training series 'Campus to Corporate' equip the student to face the corporate world more diligently All our training programs in each of these segments are backed by Whizlabs which is a known name in the technical assessments.

Power Solutions – We aim at creating a bridge between candidates and organization that are looking for talented resources. Power solutions has been providing the talent management solutions to many of the India’s leading BPO and IT companies. We have objective of identifying outstanding professionals for specific business requirements whose vision, energy, enthusiasm and skills set them apart.

BYJU’S is the world's most valuable ed-tech company and the creator of India’s most loved school learning app which offers highly adaptive, engaging and effective learning programs for students in classes 1 -12 (K-12) and competitive exams like JEE, NEET, CAT, and IAS.

BYJU'S - The Learning App, the flagship product for classes 4-12 was launched in 2015. Today, the app has over 35 million registered students and 2.4 million annual paid subscriptions. With an average time of 71 minutes being spent by a student on the app every day from 1700+ cities, the app is creating a whole new way of learning through visual lessons. It is encouraging students to become self- initiated learners.

The Disney BYJU'S Early Learn App was launched in June 2019, a special offering from BYJU'S in collaboration with Disney India for students in classes 1-3. In early 2019, BYJU'S also acquired Osmo, a Palo Alto-based maker of educational games to transform the whole offline to online learning experience.

Delivering a world-class learning experience, programs from BYJU’S are making learning contextual and visual. The apps have been designed to adapt to the unique learning style of every student, as per the pace, size, and style of learning. BYJU'S is paving the way for new-age, geography-agnostic learning tools that sit at the cross-section of mobile, interactive content and personalised learning methodologies. To know more about the company, please download the apps (Available in Play Store & App store) or visit us at https://byjus.com/

V magicS Business Solutions is one among the prominent SEO, Digital Marketing, Website Development and RPO company in Kerala. We are a full Stack-Solution for the Entrepreneurs for all their requirements. We have grown to become the most trusted and innovative business solutions company in Kerala by providing result-oriented, creative and High Quality solutions to our clients. Our services specialize in Search Engine Optimization, Digital Marketing, Social Media Optimization, Social Media Promotion, Web application development services, HR outsourcing services and Training and Development Services.

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We are a USD 4.9 billion company with 131,500+ professionals across 90 countries, helping 946 global customers including Fortune 500 companies. Our convergent, digital, design experiences, innovation platforms and reusable assets connect across a number of technologies to deliver tangible business value and experiences to our stakeholders.

Silicon Veins is a technology based Startup Company that has a huge passion for innovation and coming up with scalable solutions that empowers businesses in solving real world problems. The company has a great blend of very strong technical and business management professionals. We look for simple solutions that inspire and make you think. Make you curious. To us, it’s all about the experience and the story. It is in us the desire to strive and grow, to make that difference we want to see. We are aiming to continue this story we started and going forward that extra bit to keep on moving.

As a leading healthcare BPO company with a world-class team of highly skilled medical coding and medical billing outsourcing professionals, Company solves its clients’ billing challenges, while embracing their overall business operations.

By leveraging our people, processes and technology, our healthcare BPO company enables clients to reduce operating and capital costs, recover revenue, improve patient satisfaction, and increase productivity. With a current staff of over 8,000 professionals, we provide strategic outsourcing solutions to healthcare providers.

An experienced healthcare BPO company can be a vital partner for healthcare providers by implementing proven strategies to help overcome today’s ever-changing revenue cycle management challenges. Our in-depth healthcare industry expertise, coupled with robust processes and proprietary workflow engines, makes our healthcare BPO company an ideal medical coding and medical billing outsourcing partner for our clients. Contact us today to find out how we can leverage the Company advantage to add value to your organization!

Our Placement company is one of the best Consulting firm in Recruitment & HR practices in India.
We do not Charge any fee at any stage of recruitment process from the candidates

Integrated Personnel Services Limited, is an preferred partner for providing human resource services to the best of the industries all across India since year 2004. The expertise lies in providing customized solutions exactly matching to the client’s requirements. With its strong networks and connections it serves in 600+ locations, managing 35000+ associates in pan India. It also has a strong database for the International staffing. It deals with 360 degree HR aspects touching upon the most crucial areas of this business.

We have incorporated ourselves this year as Private Limited company for a project we have named it as, Audio Library Project. We have started working on this Project in the beginning of this year and we expect to complete our Project by the ending of the year 2020. We are going to launch an Audio E-library where all the books will be available to hear....yes you are reading true. We are in process of converting all the books in Audio Format so that you can hear your favourite books and novels.

And in this process of converting books and novels in Audio Format we come to you with a great earning opportunity for you. Yes, you can, in fact, anyone can work with us in this project and earn a handsome income.



Now your good typing skill and good typing speed can make your future.

Warm greetings from the Netrocon Digital family! It's a pleasure to make your acquaintance through Linkedin.

Netrocon is a Marketing and Staffing firm founded in 2002 in the US. We have partnered with some great clients in the US and also in India.

We use data from a combination of recruitment channels which give us a clear understanding of which channels deliver the greatest return on investment. This helps us reduce the cost per hire over time and as a result we help you reduce your overall recruitment costs.

What can we do for Dish as a Staffing Firm?

The staffing industry has undergone a big transformation the past few years and there has been a big shift in the tools and techniques used to attract top notch talent.

It is no longer about how fast you can source a requirement, rather it's about how well you can identify a star performer that exactly matches the need and strategically build a pipeline of candidates based on upcoming needs of a customer for proactive continuous supply.

Our staffing services includes the following.

Getting you a top-notch candidate for a fulltime position in your company which will involve a one-time charge.
Getting you a top-notch candidate from Netrocon who can work on a contract with you on T&M basis.
Getting a recruiter for your staffing needs who will be a dedicated resource. This person can work on site/ offsite but will be only working for Dish.

I also have a company profile attached to let you know about our services, how we would fit into your business and bring greater outcomes. We are looking forward to connect with you at the earliest.

Toppscholars - The Smart Learning App is the latest offering of Jaro Group which is a pioneer in Ed-Tech sector. Already making waves in the K-12 learning segment, ToppScholars' vision is to provide quality education to children and enhance the over-all learning experience using innovation and technology.

Platinum Hospital Pvt. Ltd. established since 2012, consist of network of 2, 100 Bedded Multi-Super Specialty Hospitals at Vasai & Ulhasnagar with all the Ultramodern Infrastructure Facilities, Advanced Clinical Equipment

Dcs Group was established as an Educational and Career Consulting services company based in Jaipur, India. We have been operating since 2011, currently we are running our many branches across India and originally specialises in providing Career.

Cyboticx is a full service digital agency that specializes in creative campaigns, website design, mobile app development, and online marketing. Our clients range from fortune 1000 companies to innovative startups. Although a new company Cyboticx has managed to grow rapidly with presence in USA, Poland and India. Cyboticx is also currently working on proprietary software in the staffing and Geo fencing sectors.

Iha Consulting Services is conceived, designed and promoted as a multidisciplinary consultancy firm supported by professionals, who have extensive experience in the areas of technology and business management.

Techolution is a high-tech consulting company on a mission to accelerate digital transformation for our clients across the globe. We are a very successful start-up that is small enough to care and large enough to be trusted by some of the top brands in the world such as Apple, JPMC, DBS Bank, NBC, Stryker, JCrew, etc. Techolution specializes in UI Modernization, Cloud Transformation, Internet of Things, Big Data & Artificial Intelligence. We enable our customers with UX Design & Project Management services to achieve digital product excellence through our signature optimization of Agile methodology called High Velocity Product Development (HVPD). As a testament to the power of HVPD, we have developed a wealth of world class products, owned by Techolution, in the space of Virtual Reality, Facial Recognition, Smart Water Monitoring and many more cutting edge digital products in the pipeline.
Techolution currently serves clients across the United States with our headquarters in the heart of downtown New York City. We recently opened Techolution City in India as our offshore development center as a living and breathing lab for our IoT Smart City products. Techolution also serves APAC customers from our Singapore office and the Mauritius office supports our initiatives on the African content

Agilysys has been a leader in hospitality software for more than 40 years. Hospitality is all we do. With a strong track record for reliability - our Customers depend on our software to work and support to always be there. There's always room at Agilysys for another innovative mind and enthusiastic spirit. We're an innovative software development company made up of smart, engaged, motivated and talented people that come from a wide range of backgrounds. Agilysys puts the power to make an impact directly into the hands of the people who work here, because when our clients thrive, we win! While our corporate headquarters are in the United States, Agilysys is an international company with offices in Hong Kong, Singapore, Malaysia and the Philippines. We have a software development center in Ramanujan IT City in Chennai, India. As our horizons expand, so do yours.
Why Agilysys?
* In an era where job hunt can take weeks or even months, it's a radical notion to receive a job offer within a day of arriving at an interview. Yes, you read that right! Agilysys identifies the right talents and provides you with on the spot job offers
* Career advancement and professional development opportunities.
* Learn new skills and receive guidance from industry mentors.
* Competitive compensation and benefits.
* At Agilysys, you will be joining a team of enthusiastic counterparts where teamwork is abundant and individual contributions are recognized.
* We support you in discovering and exploring your passions and flourishing in the exciting software technology industry.
* The perks of being an Agilysys employee don't just stop at being a part of and collaborating with great people and projects. You give us your best and we are committed to doing the same. We offer a wide range of employee benefit programs to improve your work-life and overall well-being.
* As a hospitality solutions company, Agilysys empowers you to work for the most interesting businesses in the world: Hotels, Resorts, Casinos, Cruise Lines, Restaurants, Hospitals and Universities!

CAREER NETWORK is a premier consultancy involved in manpower recruitment. We cater to the manpower requirements of corporate of all sizes, all over India. Ours is a professionally managed consultancy company with expertise in referring/short listing right candidates, fulfilling the required criteria for a given job. Through a unique combination of skills, competencies, knowledge and favorable experience, is able to offer Manpower services ranging from consultancy to turnkey project implementation and operation. We recognize and cater to the special needs of clients in the various industries, specializing in IT Industry.

If you need expert candidates to keep your business ahead in fast moving technology fields, we are here to help. We pride ourselves in bridging the gap between employers and candidates by assisting companies in recruiting the best candidates available and assisting professionals in finding great career opportunities.
Our consultants provide valuable insight and assistance in the hiring process that goes beyond recruiting. Working closely with clients from the commencement of the project through to the offer stage, we ensure our clients receive the very best candidates for a successful placement. We are able to accurately assess the skills and qualifications of candidates and have a thorough understanding of the nature of the positions we are filling.

SyncEzy is an Australia based 100% remote company with 17 staff in 5 cities, Location / AGE / Gender no Bar. Everyone here works from a home office or a shared co working space in their city.

We work with some of the largest names in the ERP / CRM space and have 30 + market leading integrations between major systems like Salesforce / Zoho , etc.

We have customers in AUS / US / NZ and EU and we work similarly with a team spread across Australia and India.

As a SaaS company we offer all our employees, the stability of good pay and benefits with a awesome work life balance. We have been offering remote work for all our staff long before Covid and will continue to do so forever.